Curse

Mordakai · Oct 03, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex

Its just to stop annoying people from Ctrl Clicking the weapon name over and over even though they spent no effort on making the weapon, because all that'll do is "I'm wielding an Inscribed XX axe of defense".

That's annoying no matter what weapon you're wielding.

So Death is trying to turn a profit from an upcoming release... wow, that's news.

ChildeOfMalkav · Oct 03, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex

Its just to stop annoying people from Ctrl Clicking the weapon name over and over even though they spent no effort on making the weapon, because all that'll do is "I'm wielding an Inscribed XX axe of defense".

I swear all your posts are either the most inane ramblings or you're just joking around. I sincerely hope you're just screwing around.

Phoenix Ex · Oct 03, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by sumrtym

Points to the crappiness inherent in these people's so called arguments. I'm leet if my weapon is gold, never mind if it's the same as someone elses, and I want to ping my weapon like a madman when I get in a group so you know I'm uber. If you have an inscription name ping, then you're a noob and I own you LOL.

That's their mentality. The sooner ANET kills it the better for all the people playing this game. And I say this as a person with a stack of greens / golds / 1.4 million in storage on toons, and 4 sets of fissure armor. I don't have to go around beating people up about it like you seem to need to. At the same time, I'm incredibly frustrated I STILL can't get weapon stats I want on skins I want. ANET is going to solve it, and I applaud them for it.

All you leet-speak-i'm-cooler-than-you-cause-i-use-gold-weapons guys can either deal with it or go play WOW.

I am proposing that as a compromise, I myself uses GREEN weapons because they take less time to acquire (I am lazy at searching even if I can afford it ok?

). The name change proposal was said by my GUILDIE, and I thought about it and see absolutely no harm to either side. Casual players get good look skin and feel more imersed in the game, REAL gold weapons economy (let them have it) stays intact.

I thought this entire argument is ONLY about the availibility of mods and weapon skins to casual players.

leprekan · Oct 03, 2006, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

That's annoying no matter what weapon you're wielding.

So Death is trying to turn a profit from an upcoming release... wow, that's news.

Uh not just turn a profit. He has been arguing prices are too high all along and wants to try to exploit the update to create what would be the most expensive item in guild wars. Unconditional weapons were removed from the drop system after week or 2 of release. He is trying to create what was never meant to be.

sixdartbart · Oct 03, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Originally Posted by leprekan

Just wow talk about hypocrites. While shopping what did I find in high end?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10054638

The guy screaming for cheap perfect crystallines is trying to buy an unconditional weapon to make the most expensive item in the game if this update goes through.

ROFLMFAO
You updated while I was posting but this is pricless

Phoenix Ex · Oct 03, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by ChildeOfMalkav

I swear all your posts are either the most inane ramblings or you're just joking around. I sincerely hope you're just screwing around.

Nope, I am NOT joking around. I am trying to find a solution that pleases everyone with the least side effects as possible.

Unfortunately, some people are never satisfied until all the people that don't share their vision burn in hell or something.

Mordakai · Oct 03, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

That aside the moral of this is that this economy of high end weapons is based on the people who are willing to participate in it with collectors/green items/pvp creation nobody is forced to take part in any of it.
The buying and selling of expensive items is something that some people enjoy doing.

Not all Mods are available on Collector's or Greens.

Kinda defeats the moral, no?

People will still enjoy collecting, and selling. In fact, with a new element in play (Inscriptions), this will just increase the amount of fun one can have buying and selling.

Phoenix Ex · Oct 03, 2006, 08:37 PM // 20:37

That's why I suggested the proposal several posts back.

Make Inscription weapon = Green with All Mods, but with all the cons about greens (different name, color, inability to swap mods).

To all the people that says all they want is to look good and not to mess with the economy, please give a reason why my proposal is bad, and improvements.

Two April Mornings · Oct 03, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Not all Mods are available on Collector's or Greens.

Kinda defeats the moral, no?

People will still enjoy collecting, and selling. In fact, with a new element in play (Inscriptions), this will just increase the amount of fun one can have buying and selling.

99% on mods are available on greens adn colelctors items.
You are totally assuming the amount of fun people will have. Most people who previously were whining because they could nto afford their 15^50 crystalline or because they simply coudln't have a gold wep with the saem stats as collectors, those whiners will have more fun. Again, that is the essential problem with this possible change. It would be like the Diablo 2 1.1 Patch.

Mordakai · Oct 03, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40

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Originally Posted by leprekan

Uh not just turn a profit. He has been arguing prices are too high all along and wants to try to exploit the update to create what would be the most expensive item in guild wars. Unconditional weapons were removed from the drop system after week or 2 of release. He is trying to create what was never meant to be.

Well, we don't know if Inscriptions will even work on Unconditionals.

As anything else, he's taking a risk. (BTW, I'm sure he's not the only one who's thought of it...)

Two April Mornings · Oct 03, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex

That's why I suggested the proposal several posts back.

Make Inscription weapon = Green with All Mods, but with all the cons about greens (different name, color, inability to swap mods).

To all the people that says all they want is to look good and not to mess with the economy, please give a reason why my proposal is bad, and improvements.

Nothing is wrong with that at all. I love that idea, even maybe take it further and make it so only cuztomized weapons can have inscriptions added to them.

Tommy · Oct 03, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40

set a fix price for most upgrades might be good idea. lets say 20k for hp30 sword pommel 25k for 20/20 sundering. this way ppl can only sell below the trader's price. this should help stablize the market.

sixdartbart · Oct 03, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Not all Mods are available on Collector's or Greens.

Kinda defeats the moral, no?

People will still enjoy collecting, and selling. In fact, with a new element in play (Inscriptions), this will just increase the amount of fun one can have buying and selling.

Did you bother to read the sentence above this quote or did you selectivly exclude it to further your arguement??? retorical question I already know the answer but for the record here is the sentence

"And before you start I know this is a horrible example because it is a mod that is not available on a collectors item so save yourselves the trouble

"

so please stop trying to take things out of context and maybe address the issue of all combos being available on collectors items

Mordakai · Oct 03, 2006, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings

99% on mods are available on greens adn colelctors items.

And that changes my point, how? 99% doesn't equal 100%. (even if that % is correct)

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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings

You are totally assuming the amount of fun people will have. Most people who previously were whining because they could nto afford their 15^50 crystalline or because they simply coudln't have a gold wep with the saem stats as collectors, those whiners will have more fun. Again, that is the essential problem with this possible change. It would be like the Diablo 2 1.1 Patch.

Talk about making assumptions! You assume most people play this game to have rare skins... I hardly think that is the case.

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

so please stop trying to take things out of context and maybe address the issue of all combos being available on collectors items

Fine.

The issue: Not all combos are available on collector's items.

Solution: Offer Inscriptions so people can make any item they want.

Prognosis: Good for the game.

Velath · Oct 03, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex

That's why I suggested the proposal several posts back.

Make Inscription weapon = Green with All Mods, but with all the cons about greens (different name, color, inability to swap mods).

To all the people that says all they want is to look good and not to mess with the economy, please give a reason why my proposal is bad, and improvements.

Nothing wrong with the suggestion, but it doesn't need a label as in "Inscribed weapon of xx" ... By that logic it should be "Modified Sundering Crystalline..."

I would be happy that you cold only inscribe customized weapons. I want them for playing not for trading...

Tommy · Oct 03, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

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Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious

I'm just making a valid point here, you state that this will benefit you and hurt others in the long run. Well, I will have to agree to disagree with your point of view and move on. I'm not going to get into some pointless internet arguement here.

Diamonds are rare, because of the nature of their creation. You argue that something that is almost the same and not as rare is just as valid, would you want your wife wearing a ring with a chunk of carbon on it, because it's almost the same thing just not as rare?

Elitist is an attitude, not an amount of virtual money you have on your video game.

1 to 10 million for your average player eh? That's an interesting figure, I myself have 10k in storage, I spent 40k on cap signets this last weekend, and when I get 10-40k in storage I feel comfortable and don't see the need to aquire more wealth at that point unless I'm after something specific. I guess in your opinion I'm a newbie then? 3000 hours and still a newbie, because I don't care about having 1mil+ gold... Who knew?

the average ppl are the ppl i know of and playing with me

.. most ppl i know of got more than 3 millions. so yeah they are like average for me. but again. i am the old school GWers

i played at the time when you can solo uw with your eyes closed and get 500k a day from minoes in Elona. so 10 million aint a really big number for me. but most of ppl in my era already quit. none of them still playing

. It is the golden ages of GW. I remember selling req9 15^50 handaxe without any mods for 400k and req8 13^50 chaos axe for 1 million.

sixdartbart · Oct 03, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

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Originally Posted by Tommy

set a fix price for most upgrades might be good idea. lets say 20k for hp30 sword pommel 25k for 20/20 sundering. this way ppl can only sell below the trader's price. this should help stablize the market.

Fixed prices through mechants are not and never have been a part of GWs adding them for upgrades would most likely reduce the prices of them just as it has with every new merchant they put in the game and really wouldn't be a bad idea.

sixdartbart · Oct 03, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

The issue: Not all combos are available on collector's items.

Solution: Offer Inscriptions so people can make any item they want.

Prognosis: Good for the game.

Or

The issue: Not all combos are available on collector's items.

Solution: Add collectors/green items with the overlooked combos.

Prognosis: Stay consitant with how these problems have been addressed before and still allow some things in the game to be "special" and giving players a sense of achievement to obtain them while not giving any type of an advantage over other players.

Velath · Oct 03, 2006, 09:07 PM // 21:07

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

Or

The issue: Not all combos are available on collector's items.

Solution: Add collectors/green items with the overlooked combos.

Prognosis: Stay consitant with how these problems have been addressed before and still allow some things in the game to be "special" and giving players a sense of achievement to obtain them while not giving any type of an advantage over other players.

I would also be happy with this as I like figuring out builds to farm for greens. I think the most "rare" weapon I have is a 15^50 fellblade which one of my guildies sold to me for less than going rate.

But I still like my IDS the best!

Mordakai · Oct 03, 2006, 09:14 PM // 21:14

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

Or

The issue: Not all combos are available on collector's items.

Solution: Add collectors/green items with the overlooked combos.

Prognosis: Stay consitant with how these problems have been addressed before and still allow some things in the game to be "special" and giving players a sense of achievement to obtain them while not giving any type of an advantage over other players.

I'd be happy with this as well...

I think Anet just took the easy way out, honestly.